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Pilot Episode: Reracing through F1 calendar 2020

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In this very first episode, we talk through the constructor's championship table for the F1 calendar year 2020. We talk about our memories, opinions on the unusual year that 2020 was or wasn't.Topics included in this podcast:Hopes from the Year 2020Thoughts when the season wasn’t/was going to happenThe (so called) title fight between Mercedes and Redbull RacingThe surprising Mclaren(T)Racing point aka Pink MercedesRenault’s ComebackTroubles at FerrariAlphaTauri – Peirre Gasly’s redemptionAlfaRomeo’s WoesUnfortunate HaasWilliams bring WilliamsOutro

Welcome to the PODCAST. This is episode,one of a series on F one, two thousand and twenty one to days episode. We talkabout on two thousand and twenty the season. That was a bit unusual and funand dramatic, and Oh my God, there was so much happening in that here. Theyare itself was a bit unusual. So we'll talk about the holier itself, if onetwo thousand and twenty, we are your hosts, I am a cash hi. I'm Sarah andwe'll just share our thoughts and talk about things here. It started a veryinteresting right. I mean the library started. Coming up, there was Okon whocame back. The libraries were fun. Amazing work came back with the brandblack, not really didn't come out with black. They had come out with silver.If you remember, I know it has been a very long year, but they came out with and then theychanged in between before the season actually startedbecause of all the B Mpret we're going on and Hamilton's support for them andwith the whole we races one initiative, that's when they switch to lack. That'strue. That's true! That's true, but before the like coming out of twothousand and nineteen, what were your hopes and expectations on two thousandand twenty two thousand and twenty? I wasn't really very hopeful about twentytwenty season. To be honest, mainly because I think, towards the end oftwenty nineteen, it was quite clear that Ferrari is not going to be the topdog in two thousand and twenty. It was clear I think, right from Austin in twothousand and nineteen, where things started going bad for them. There wererumors about then cheating with the engine. They had to reduce the powerand yeah. I remember that so yeah honestly, I was under the impression that most of tessgoing to dominate, which we all know what happened Red Bull, would be.Second, exactly what happened, though? Third and forth is what surprises me alot, and I think, apart from the first two teams, everything else expected like didn'tcome out to be true at all. Yeah right, like the last season, was so every race was so thrilling. We hadagain, I'm not sure here but, like fifteen out of the twenty driver, istaking podium, which is such an amazing thing to see. At the same time,obviously a right Mor dominance, as has continued the thing that flipped for mefor for a evers. I think Italy, two thousand and nineteen, where up untilthat mid season, wattle was in good contention and then things just whensouth from there a pre testing season more comes out witha with a dash system, and, to be honest, like that, was precoetimes I was like yeah this again. There is no doubt here. This team is going todominate to that extent that you and other teams were surprised and shockedwith what they've produced is like it's yeah they're going to be at the top.Now let the rest fight yeah, yeah yeah. I remember when data come out F, one fiwas ready with the rule to band, as in two thousand and twenty on one. So mostcities pretty much knew that Das was going to be legal only in tiny to any,because from what I've heard, they kind of do. Work with the fire while comingup with these INOMATA, because you know...

...they don't want to spend millions on anew technology which is going to be illegal. They do kind of share detailswith a fire and try to confirm that it's legal, so they knew that o Toandtis the only year that they can use it. But to me it is the past few years have created thestable platform for Marcites for them to push the boundaries as much as theycan and they don't care like yeah I can just take that is yeah yeah yeah, Imean you're, absolutely bang on there. I like you've, achieved so much that atthis point it's just point for innovation right when don't win, it'sjust points for innovation and that at least Ostra. I was on struck by itbecause, like Oh, my God, well, when you are about more than ahundred points, one and fifty points ahead of the second rest yeah, you can take a few risks right. I mean at least two spots out ofthe three on that odium are always fixed, but prem testing has beeninteresting as all throughout the pre testing time it was. It was clear thatfor are is not doing good. There are potential issues in there, as you'vealso said. What's interesting, is they had a management shift right before,like I think two thousand and nineteen is when they had a management shift?The season started a fine and it's been sold since then ye to, though the manager changed for forAr Thousand and nineteen. I don't really attribute their failures to thenew management, because from many reports it has been kind of evidentthat all the cheating that they were doing was underdevelopment. For a couple of years now and the previous team principle, I forget what his name was: Oh MarioYeah, I don't really attribute the failuresto Matia, because when he took the helm at the team he was inherited this issue which he had to deal with, and he kindof knew that once this is exposed and they lose some horse powers from theirengine, they are going to be in this situation. That's interesting! So theyhad this long time coming. That's what people say, but a movie moving on from thepreseason testing to the actual season right so at least I was in mixedreactions because we waited three four long months forthat first place in a parallel world coit struck. Unfortunately, people are dying and youknow countries are going in to lock down, but then there's this silverlining where everyone has already assembled in in Melbourne City Park andthe race is going to happen. And then you have your first case with someonein McLaren which which makes a FIA and Australian GPS go yeah all right backyour bags, we're gonna WE'RE gonna lock this down. What were your thoughts then,at what? What was going through your I still remember, the log town was on. Obviously, everybody was bored out oftheir minds. F N was something that I was lookingforward to and I woke up in the morning and the day of the race I opened readit and I see the headline the racist cancelled and I'm like seriously.

I mean you: Are there right? You couldhave just finished it. anyways now lives over at stake, so that was theright thing to do. Yeah, I'm. I was a little worried at that time, whetherwe'll have two thousand and Twenty Sen, but I'm glad that they got a newcalendar, managed all the logistics and got the season going with a lot of testing following all guidelines, and they did it really. Well, I meanconsidering how much they travel around the number four cases were not that bad within their fan bubble such yeah. Imean amazing health regulations that came in as soon as they came back tothe season right after what was like a hard break for millions of fans, Ithink the redemption part to us. They brought back older tracks or is recall,windage tracks to both F on fans, amusement and I think the drivers lovedit right like after every vintage track race. I think we've heard each and aredriver, say why don't we raise more on these? Every one season started again with twenty two track calendar withinthe short amount of time that they had, which itself is a very great feat. Fewthings that were like really interesting about the season were someof these older legacy tracks, which came back tracks like Portamour, Mugello andNobori. All of these tracks, high featured on the ffon calendar, not notin the past couple of years, but have featured in many a phonal, Ndarand Al One of the Fan favorites, I'm glad they got an opportunity because mebeing relatively a new fan of fun. I have not seen any of these tracksbefore all the tracks. From my memory are the tracks that have come along inthe past few years, which most of the tracks are good, that f one alwaysvisits, but I'm glad we got a couple different tracks, because that reallygave not that through of all these teamsright, I feel that, like, since all of thetracks are repeated year after year, these teams have perfected their lapsearound these tracks. So well they have so much data about it. That's why yousee the same standings everywhere, yeah, Maya right and on that note right, likeeverything you saying is so visible, because teams came to these new tracks,Muchel Norberg Imola, and it was visible in the practice sessions itselfthat they are learning these tracks. They were spinning off. They are tryingto understand what works best for the team in sort of like a computer scienceway. It felt like these cars were hard coded for the twenty one tracks of thetwenty tracks that were on the calendar, and then this is just a new test casethat was thrown at them and everybody's trying to figure out how to pass these pests. And, interestingly,we saw a few incidents come out in these right, like Mosella had anhorrendous crash on what were they are to start and then the secondary startwas just quite scary, so yeah, and not just that. If youremember it, when is the last time you remember areis getting black flagged to for two tousand and twenty, I don't toy anyyear when races got black flagged. I had always forgotten that there was aflag for that. I had forgotten that we start thesestarts with a standing starts. This was...

...a very crazy year and I and two of themin a single is that to right, yeah, yeah, that's true, yes, wow! Thatwas put them out right. I think it has portmouth por dem over Mozello, one ofone of those two all of these tracks really delivered. All of these newtrunks deliver and I think, going forward if one should learn a lessonfrom this, I understand the reason why they keep visiting the same tracks.Obviously it's all got to do with money. After all, if one is a business, Iunderstand they have to maximize their their profits and that's why they visitthe places which offer the most amount of money, but at the end of the day, they shouldremember that this is an sport and the entertainment value is just asimportant as the money is you're not going to make money. If people are notgoing to watch your uses, and if you want to keep things interesting,especially given the most reese dominance that has been in the pastyears, they have to mix things up what they I feel they should be doing isthey should have one or two sloughs each trees I mean each year and thoseshould be on a rotating track basis and they should keep changing those,because that will add a new dimension and, as you said, you know, teams can'thard code their cars to tracks that way. Coming back to the entire season. RightI mean we started off with the expectation that Marco was going todominate. I mean we knew that from pretestings the interesting part he is.We had some hunch that red bill was going to be close. Second, it wasn't close, but it was still asecond, the interesting part or all the teamsafter that, like the midfield already started getting better since twothousand and nineteen a d, then it just came so close in to than a d twenty. Solike going off, each team work right, Hamilton, Botas, BOTASparts of two thousand and twenty the same way her as night. Two Thousand andnineteen wins the first race and then is on podium. So that's that's a winfor more cities, but it didn't work out quite the way he wanted, but, as I I feel botas every year comes in, hefinishes the first race and he's like yes, my job Pard is done and I candistress now and the season's done. For me, I mean he is he's a he's, a goodreason. He is talented. I don't deny that I mean Hamilton is Hamilton andit's not easy to be his teammate. But I don't know man, I'm tired of Hambition, any competition no bag. Onthere I mean the I fun on this port, and we can. We can see that in McLarenis the drivers challenge each other right to push each other here I feelhamiltons motivated by either matching a pitcher maker orbeing number one, and you know being that greatest driver of all time.That's his motivating factor and may be a few percentages with with botaspushing, but I don't quite see that on the track right like there isn't muchpotass versus Hamilton rivalry that that we've seen with Hamilton ormothers in the past yeah. I wish there was something like those book right now or a loan of verses Hamilton to I'dlove to see that e well put us, I think he had decent season. I mean hewasn't the best card, he delivered the podium state moneten and he did a good enough job that mostof his is not going to read place him...

...they're not going to you know bread,the winning formula, they don't know to add spice to their carry right. Now.That's that's an end! That's a that's a very interesting point, because whatBotas does for my CDs enables mercies to be that constructed champion thatthey continue being and we've seen an example of this with red bull, whereit's completely dominated by Max were steppin. Have they had their seconddriver? Also on podiums contesting while Max is contesting Hamilton, havethe second driver contest boat as there could have been? If not for you know,drivers championships, at least for constructed championships, would haveseen two thousand and twenty have a good competition between merceries andred bill, but thoughts and red bull they've continued in the past two years,they've changed their second driver. What do you think about redwells yeah? I think redpoll is fully invested intoMax. That's very clear. Red Bull is Maxwell appen I would say- and I wouldsay it make sense from their perspective in a way, though, okay, sopure Gusli. Let's talk about him. Just a little bit pure ghastly was in red bull. He obviously wasn'table to match up with Max. He was not able to get his arms out. He was notable to defend his positions and that's why he got the boot Alban came in. Heseemed promising at the start. If I remember the first race, I think it waspunted out by Hamilton and I think Maraposa that happened to S. I think Max had some engine problems orsomething in the first trees and Albon was he was on the path of winning the raceand then he got punted out after that. I think things just kept going southfor him. He got a couple podiums, but it just wasn't enough. I think, and what happens is for Max Hamilton say,for example, he has this. He has this teammate who helps him to stay ahead in the sense that peoplehave to go through, but as first to reach Hamilton, and that does help youa lot, because you don't have to constantly worry about. You know getting undercut or overcare during your during your pitched toplike there's somebody else who is going to defend the position for you on thetrack and that piece of mind I think, really helps Hamilton push even modewhich Max doesn't get because he does not have the same stability on his side right and then I mean Max himself right. While, while we talkabout these things and him being hot headed- and you knowprevious season- whatever aggression and e every otherdrivers spoken about him, but he does show promising results. I mean he hasbeen as consistent, if not more as Hamilton or about as to that matter,he's been on that podium way too many times in two thousand and twenty aswell, barring either technical issues or any incidents. That would havehappened, but I mean he's being consistent and we are right. I meanAlex Alban Poor Guy, I mean he missed out on topodiums, for whatever reasons he did get his redemption, but overall, where it doesn't seem that promisingfactor that you would expect from driver to at a team like a red poll hmYep, I would agree okay, so actually I don't want to skip over Hamilton sincewe went on to red bill because he is...

...the champion of t o thousand and twenty,and I do want to talk a little bit about him before we move ahead. Theseason is honestly where Hamblin possibly won me over. I have been acritic of Hamilton for a while. I still am, but I mean yes, I always did kind of respect hisdedication, because Louis Hamilton is nothing if he is notdedicated and the race which he outshone everyoneelse on the field. Was Turkey Odwar completely stacked against him? He did not have a good strategy.Morcone was not good on that track at all. I remember. I think both botas andHamilton were far behind in the field when thathe started and the call that he made of not switchingfrom inters to to drie and skipping that pitched stop and you know, wearing out his styles just enough tohave those hybrid inter and dry, tires that hekind of managed to keep those at where he had the advantage of the enters withthe grooves on the sides and the flat spots in the center of the tire hereally shun. In that reason he won that raised that that's where I I was fullyconvinced that okay, he does deserve the respect that is given to him yeah.And, to add to that crown I mean that's the race where he got a seventh triteto right, so that was it was a true mark of someone who knows his stuff, becauseit's not easy to be that consistent, and that shows experience in the sport whenyou are when everything's against you but you're still taking calls against.Probably your team principal and your team engineers- and you know your carmore than they do because you are in that cockpit and that sure that sureright like him getting that seventh title, I shirt Yep Yep, I mean he could have one thattitle by even like being seventh and deray yeah. That's the thing! You knowthat! That's what I appreciate about him. His dedication is insane. He healways wants to win, no matter what a lot of times he comes off as Whiney, Iwould say in his in his you know: Super Focus of winning the race always butyeah, that's Hamilton for you, yeah yeah. I agree with you. I mean I'vealso had my share of criticism for that guy, but yeah he's his consistency anddedication, sort of shows riten in that that changes yourperspective about him, because that race and in Saturday water racing pointstroll juniors on the polishes probably going to win. This he's also leadingthe race and then, as you said, right like Hamilton, taking the call for notswitching their tires when the team was telling him, whereas troll did yeah.That was the turning one quick thing about that race. If you noticed thepeople who gained the most in that race were the people who are able to managethe tires year is Paris one one person he came in second, second and third, Iforget, but he made the best out of it. He he was not supposed to be on thepodium in that race. I think he was somewhere seven, thirty, eightthroughout the race, and then he made the call of not pitting and he managedto stars with the ends in a similar way, with what Hamilton did and dividendspared off for him all right. Okay, let's get back to redbull, I think we discussed about Albon...

...we discussed about Max. Do you haveanything to add port marks? Otherwise we could now on. No, I genuinely wantto see that guy win more podiums. I do find him hot headed, but I like it Imean he's pushing the team, that's dominating, and that'swhat I like to see that that's the competition that keeps me continue watching. Otherwise, if morewas just doing- and it was everyone else playing- it lacks that own factorof. Why are you watching this pot? Are you watching it for everyone else? Yep?I completely agree, and one more thing which I really want to create Max Waris up until twenty nineteen, I think on no two thousandand eighteen Max always has hired this image as you've also called him a lotof times today, hot headed, that's what you always remember when you thinkabout Max and yeas always had this image among everyone e that he ishanted, but if you notice something ever since the crash that he had withOkon after that incident, you will see a changed Max. He has changed so muchafter that. He has kept his head cool in every single race set. He has beenthe only place where I saw him lose his patience again was at Portamour when hewas on the path of getting the lead of the race and then he's fun out whiletrying to overtake Pere Yeah. No, if we are talking about Hamilton'sconsistency, there is a visible evolution in terms of how Max hasprogressed in his career right like joining in F one and as I've calledthem a couple of times, hard headed. But since then, we've seen his heart headedness convertto aggression, convert to wins. Being then being like that consistent winnerfor redbill that he is now- and I see I see him there for a long time unlesssomeone tries to buy a or off of red bill, but regardless in his careerright, I do see him winning those world championships, hopefully in the nearfuture. But talking of young drivers read like moving moving down the list.We've got McLaren which, to my surprise, was just so amazing. Last season, portdrivers just amazing land on no science, just ames, absolutely McLaren. Whenthis started the season off. I did not expect them to be on number three atall. They they're one of the teams who, ifyou think about all the races, except for the one, obviously were Fer gastlyone, and I think science was second. But apart from that, you can't think ofMC laden being in a very dominant position throughout the season, butjust by completing races, having both their drivers within points and havingthat consistency got them on the third third place yeah and that tres waterrace right like I, so felt that science emotion when the checked flat went oarlike one more a maximum of two more laps and he would have had him. It wasso there. What I like is is what we've been talking about dismissing from theother two teams, where we've got land o and science have that chemistry andthat push lay we've seen it's not that we've seen one or the other dominantduring during the season. It's been so much that both of them have beenpushing each other we've seen land of finish. Fourth Carless has obviouslygone on to be on the podium as well, but it's just been amazing at Mary, Ohyeah. Definitely yeah, I'm just trying...

...to look for the driver, standings fromtwo thousand and twenty, and even to take a look. I want to see where signs ended up. Six, okay and Lando was nine. Scienceobviously has the advantage of winning podiums and second place got him all the pointsthat he needed to like jump forward. That's the surprising thing right likeif you see so Jo Paris was forth. Yet racing point is not the thirteen theyare on number four, and that shows where consistency is so important ofyeah the sport, it's not just about being on the podium at the end of theday, winning graces doesn't turn new money. The a constructor championshipearns you money and getting a team up. There is so important for the nextseason, because that is going to help your development for the next season,yeah just a small correction. There Ithought Landa was for, but there was a time penalty to Hamilton on thatAustrian race which which made him leave proud to the podium. So so boththe drivers have had podium with consistent performance, that is, that is paid off right like toeveryone's surprise. We've seen McLaren come back so strong to what it was. Itwas two years back when Alonzo was on the team GP to Algon. We all remember the radio messages allback to his credit. Alonza was helping McLaren build up again from wherethey've come, and it shows with these with both these drivers.Just Performing Amazing Brown at the hell, Moffet also pushing these driversand also the very fact that they hired the ex porsha boss, fromthe W C Sydal.He I feel has played a pivotal rule in the team. He has been a superstar atPersia, I'm sure he is doing the same over here as well, and I'm actuallyquite excited to see what McCallen does in the coming season, because yeah thepast few seasons have been spectacular for them. Let's find hey the banks going tocontinue right, we'll probably talk more about this in a future episode to,but the Banter is going to continue with Ricardo, who replaces a science yeah well get to that to in a futureepisode to actually I'm not too sure. So. One thing I've noticed is thatevery team usually has one funny guy and one serious guy, and I think thisis breaking that that balance, because now you have toAmattur guys in the same team- and I don't know, what's going to happen withthat, and then some teams going to have twomature guys and it's going to be a serious team yeah, that's right, all right! ANYWAYS! Let's move on tothe next team on the tand twenty constructors, that is racing pointracing racing point has been a topic ofdiscussion for a couple of seasons. Now all that went down with changes inownership, the team going into administration par is helping the teamto you know not going bankrupt, making the deal go through with stroll andeverything. Paris has been a very UTICA part of this team for a while now yeahthat too, and then the other controversy of them being more to usingmore engines directly say I mean in and off of everyone. They've just been indiscussions quite a lot: Oh yeah yeah for sure...

...creasing point as people used to callthem yeah. The racing point has this hardson set of controversies, but regardless of that, they have beenpretty good through the years. Bracing point has always been known to have you know, being a small team and havingvery limit limited resources. They have achieved a lot in the past years and and you can see that as you're risingthrough the constructors. Now I think this season they hired a couple offreaks of bad luck with lands, especially they had a couple ofmechanical issues because of which I feel they felt short on the constructorseries and lost out also, I think they had to oh yeah one important thing. Ithink the point about racing point that you said if you remember they werefined in terms of points and they had to forego a couple points for the start:Ting few races, if I remember correctly, and that lost them a couple of spots onthe table, I think that's because it was uncovered that they had copied thedesign of the rare break, dots or something like that and those at avisible. So that kind of proved that they had some exchange of informationwith most of Dese yeah, your bang on it mean, besides, like a five hundredthousand dollar fine. There was also like did deducting fifteen point ishfrom the constructor champion. How much was the difference between between thespot? I had from what I say it was fourteen point. So, yes, I would havenone yeah, that's right. He could have beenone and ninety six bares himself also has had his share ofturbulence if you will in the season right the quitting in Cote sessionsoper as in the lime light. After all, the shuffling that went about- and Idon't know if that gave him the kick or what was it, but we've just seen thatguy change mid season Yep, I think Paris is always been that guy who'sthere when the pieces are falling and he's always there to catch those pieces,he never loses the apposite when it like knocks on his door, and that guyhas many a times been on the podium when hehas no place on the podium at all. It really appreciate so yeah. I meanrecent points just being spectacular. We've seen that consistency and thatfire from both troll junior and Perez that we've seen them either contest andeven win. Some podiums were as going on to win his his first ever podium y.everyone was emotional, just just spectacular performance from Parasanand everyone starting to talk about hey. Let's have this guy into an intent one, and you know I had my fingers crosseduntil the news came out, but talking about racing pointspectacular performance. We cannot overshadow knowledge. Bouncing back right, Reno has beenricard was just trying to push that team and lift that team. So much it'svisible and Okon. I feel like that. Guy Is being in the shadow. Oh Yeah, sucky sucker gone, he wassecond Paris was first Okon was second land. STROOL was third okay,interesting and Daniel was fifth on that race and Paris went the resby alarge margin. By the way he won the respect ten seconds. That is, that isHamilton level. Would you have imagined a reno coming? Second?...

No, no! Not at all I mean the seasonthat Reno has hired before I did not imagine the not to be fifth the seasonexactly. I mean two thousand and nineteen and then then pre seasontesting as like a RENA's Goin to have a similar season, poor Ricardo. He switched from redbillto Reno, with with super high hopes, but only to see that he s that teamsjust kept surprising and both their drivers have again been like veryconsistent. Every time when somebody talks aboutthe Cardo crying about going from red will to do now. I think about that.MEME. If you remember that guy lying on the floor and Watan that's exactly thecard with this twenty million dollar Pachecho he got on now. He does not care a damn he's his his accont is smooth than enough, for you knowoffset of the races he did not win. I think Rena was a very good. What do you say? Transition Team for him McLaren isgoing to be a very good place for him and I definitely see Ricardo doing goodin the coming season and yeah. Obviously, he did do great internal,but still with the way renous progressing, but then the other waywhere how McLaren's been progressing it and it's evident to the way hejumped right as soon as as soon as red, exited and science jumped the gun onFerai, he could see Ricardo like yeah, I'm moving to McLaren by yes, I remember the whole dominos that was going on when you know,as soon as the news for signs broke, then the news was theCardo broke and very soon I think everybody was pretty much sure what wasgoing to be the next news. That was better eaus Peres and that's exactlywhat happened talking about talking about a Wettin, let's move to Frari,which was which hid underwells Aon and they started offvery bad, and then they slowly were kind of creeping up the table, I'm gladthey at least reach sixth, and they didn't we, I mean they were not beat bytheir B teams, so that's working in their favorite. What are your thoughtsabout? Filarete? That's true, it was. It was quite an undervelier formance,some war of a you know film. Following a trailer from that preseason testing,where again it was somewhat every done that they they have some internalissues. Again, I don't know how true it is, but it's somewhat visible thatthere is a driver, favoritism happening between Le Clerc and wital. I mean benefit ofdoubt to Ferrari as it's not that one driver is better than the other Leclereproved himself time and again, he's being a self cretic of himself sometime,overly so, but he's being a self critic of himself pushing better to the limitpushing for Ari to the limit and on the other side we're still doing the same,because he knows he wants to win that. I tite championship fight with Hamiltona good part for Ferrari, with some of the incidents that did happen duringsome of the races they were able to creep up to fourth places, sometimes even third, with wattlewinning one of those races.

So, overall, there were quite a lot ofpositive movements. WITTA saw it coming. His contract was ending chose to leave,which is also somewhere expected by fans and yeah until until he had aplace to go, it was all fingers crossed. Let's get this guy, a team yeah definitely, and it was veryevident that Veta was not having a good time at Ferrari. I could see it in hisinterviews the way he talked the way he behaved. It was very evident that therelationship between the driver and the team had turned SAR, and they prettymuch were just tolerating each other at that point, and I'm kind of glad forboth ARY and Vetala that they parted was because I feel both of them willcome out. You know better out of this, so one thing which I really wanted totalk about was Leclerc very similar to Hamilton. I've not been a fan of litleever since he is joined Frari a lot of times. Yeah I mean he is a great driver,but in a similar WAN to Hamilton due to his constant need of being number one inthings he comes off as being whiny a lot of times. I I appreciate the factthat he is really self critical, but sometimes, as you said rightsometimes he sounds really overly self critical, and at that point for me itfeels like it's that he's being disingenuous about it. He is trying toput up a face in front of people of being self critical, but regardless, Ithink, through the season he has proved himself as the number of went driverfor Ferrari. He has taken those opportunities he has been on podiumswhen he shouldn't have been when clearly frady were not doing good andhe still somehow was there taking picking up those third positions forthpositions with positions, and that shows right that shows on the Travisstandings he came up. Where was it was look like I forget, let me see I mean most of the races he's finishedahead of metal, sir. I think luck. Clerk was eight wow, okay, yeah, that'snot crops, disnae Yep, the the only hard fare feeling thatgoes out for Vetti here, as I remember an interview where Hamilton was like every driver's got. Some other thingworking for them outside of the restrain for all the years that I'veknown wattle all he knows is cars and fan and racing, and that banter was a sort of visiblewhen you could see wette and Riken, and just just fooling around with each other andthen as soon as I can and moves it's like you're. One of your sibling just goesaway and you can see Vetala Lilar, not not being the the right of theirteam mates but nonetheless, nonetheless, there were some amazing movements for,for Ari edits, got to troll him quite a lot with Sabanilla, a pretty sure. I'mpronouncing that wrong. That's the last Benala! That's the one!Yes, that's continued, so we've seen that old wetter not getting lost in twothousand and twenty and yeah the Guy Shifting to to racingpoint, which is now what Aston Martin.

I just excited to see him back on. TryStriking not going home down the list we have alfatar ghastly ghastly has been fantastic. Ihave he is the driver of the season. For me, my heart goes out to him. Hehas struggled so much. Have you okay, so this is podcast that one does withbeyond the grid. Yeah heard this episode of ghastly on it. I've heardhis life story and the struggles that he has been through. I'm glad this guy made it he s had ahorrible time at Reddall. He didn't even get to complete the season andredbill, which was really bad, and I can't even imagine getting kicked outof a team in the middle of the season and still coming out back up the nextseason and giving you a hundred percent, and he did that and it shows d he beat Kebia almost every singlerass, yeah and yeah. It was just ten out of ten, I think from him. Yeah Bang.On I mean I think, he's found home at Alfatar and that showed as soon as times for contractor neils came. Ithink he was he. He didn't even blick an eye, and there was news that gases going to continue at Alfatar,which I think is the right decision at this point in his career, because he'shad the other side of the experience not working out good for him. Comingback and then you know getting that P, two in two thousand and nineteen andcoming back stronger with a p on everyone, sharing that French win aftera long long time yeah he had it long coming, and I am happy for him. Oh Yeah, definitely moving on to DanielKiva. I don't think two thousand and twenty was a season. He was constantlysomewhere around near gastly, but never beating him, nothing spectacular, no podiums. Nonowhere was he close to podiums and that pretty much showed I mean Duke replaced him so yeah thereit goes yeah. I don't have a lot to say abouthim. Yeah! There's there isn't much to add. For a Dane. We are only Russian onthe grade. I would have loved to see him fight a lot, but well, I guess thousand and twenty wasn't hisyear, yeah well. Moving on down the list toAlpha Romo. My favorite man in in the squad is in this te man. I love thisguy, the ice man, yeah gimme Riken. What tosay about him he has been with. I think this is the second year with Alpha forhim right, yeah, yeah, yes, correct yepp is the second year with Alpha. He comes on the track, he does his job,he goes home and he does his job as well as he can with a car. That's givento him. Alfa has been struggling the season. They have constantly been atthe back of the grade, though somehow I've seen Kimi somehow make it till Qto a lot of times, and I think once he reached you three, I think so yeah Idon't recall exactly, I think, once he did reach Qu Three. I remember that aswell. Let me yeah, and even one of the ASES Idon't recall, which were in the first starting lap, Kimi made upsome ten positions or something, and...

...obviously he lost all this positionsoon, because he was driving Alpha but yeah the best part about that race. Ohmy God, after that race is comes this post race interview and then he'sdriving he's getting these positions, and he says what were the other driversdoing and everyone struggling for this grip? Oh, yes, I also remember was tappentalking about this after the race, so I think he he was having. I think he wassecond or third on the track on the track. That day and I had a poor start,I think he had some engine problems. So what he said was that, just aftergetting off the start going through the first few corners now he was lookinginto the rearview mirror and I think Kimmey was six to seven at that pointand he's so Kimi in his rare view, and he thought it thought to himself howbad am I doing that. I can see give me in my E. I watch that alerding, the that is a hilarious, is state to thatthat I think it does. Portugal grow pre. Everyone struggling, I uh, I mean he's, got a silent companywith you in a Cato Right. He's got some good silent C company with you and, asI think there isn't, there isn't much public inter between the two, but there's some good team work happeningthere yeah for sure. I think they. They are good team mates in the sensethat I think they have kind of similar personalities in a way. Gimat does comeoff a little shy, I would say- and he I think likes to keep to himself a littleas compared to other ties that I've seen. But one thing which I really wantto note about Jim Nats is that he is July proven his place at the team inthe season. I was not quite sure how well he is doing in two thousand andnineteen, but two thousand and twenty. I think he has been a lot closer toKimmey, even beating Kim me a couple of times in qualification and they endedup with the same number of points so yeah. I think Curos to him for earninghis place for twenty ten one as well. Now he's definitely improved quite alot coming out of two thousand and nineteen a D, and you you're absolutelyright about him being in the shadows in two thousad nineteen, as like, as thereis a second driver someone's driving that other Alpha. But now you know,there's there's skinny and and you're, not your direct yeah. Yes, Alfa overalldidn't have that good season. I think most of their issues were attributed tothe Frari engine and, as you can see in the driver standing all the FRATI teamssuffered a lot and definitely has was the second B team, which were havingjust a Terribil that has has has has been having other issues to ride likethe consequences of budgeting and finance issues, we'veseen them lose their drivers. Some might say that has is not beingdoing good and the drivers aren't that good. But given given their engineeringbudgets and how they've been managing, I think the team's been doing good suregroans coined as the incident man on the track, but I think he's had hisfair share of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. The unfortunate incident was probablyhis mistake, but yeah no Grojan. I think he I'm always very conflicted aboutthis guy. I've seen him do very bad at...

...times where we had the mean going on of crash John on read it where he used tocrash. So many in so many reasons, but he has had his shining moments, but Ithink, has wasn't a good card in Gruson. I Iread him as a be great driver compared to all of the drivers and yeah, I'm not too surprised that hesomewhat lost his place and the team, but I just think he would have lost it.If it wasn't for the budgeting issues, I think they would have still continued withtheir door while it may not reflect on the track. I still feel he's got thefire in him that he wants to still. You know, keep fighting for those placesand get her somewhere, but it's just unfortunate with that guy, because he'shad just so many incidents after incidents, either him being part of achain reaction or him causing one yeah he may not be. He may not be atthe at the top of you know the first half of the driver standing in terms ofcompetency, but I mean he survived there long enough to show that you knowhe's still at least got it somewhere to survive at ion and Magnesia. I feellike he's that onter you, an Nazi guy, were magasins, always the quitensishe's away from media. What o? What do you think about magazine makes, and I have really never beenable to get a gage on that guy? He Yeah. Sometimes he seems like a very good guy.Sometimes he seems like an absolute Plat. I don't understand that guy. HeI've seen him perform really well sometimes, and sometimes he is beyondterrible. So I honestly cannot get a gauge on him at all I've in the yearsthat I've watched I've always been ambivalent about him and yeah. I don'tknow whether I like I like him or not, honestly. Well, you don't get to seehim any more, so I guess I guess housis going. No,Definitely Miss Him and and folks on the track are going to miss him, but as a yeah as an f one follower. Inever never knew much about him same like you, so yeah, no one replaced him all right. Let's move on to the lastteam on the will to stables, that's Williams and no surprises the Williams in a tenposition. Here, I'm kind of glad that they finally havechanged ownership from Claire Family and ionly to me and moved on toDarlington capital as a new owners, because I feel that Williams has hireda very long legacy in the sport and definitely they were doing great rightup to two thousand and sixteen, I think, or two thousand and fifteen, somethinglike that and from there it just went down hill for them. I wouldn't blameone person, but basically everything went against them and I am somewhatglad that they're changing ownership and I hope that this gives the impetusthat they need to yeah. In those points- and you know get ahead on the table yeah I mean the fires there. Definitelythe drive to succeed is ward made Claire Still Hold on, but I think shesaw that it was time this this needed...

...to go and I'm hoping that with the newownership at at Darlington there's more budget, there is more engineeringresources that come in and with Russell there and and Latif I mean there's thisgood chance of them sort of bouncing back right. So it was unfor. When didthey lose? I think they lost one of their engineering principles. Right, I think, did hired one and I think someshenanigans went by for that, but I think they basically made the the team principle step down.That's what I think happened. I basically, I think DULLINGTON capitalwanted more hands one approach and they wanted dear guys at the helm and theybasically wanted to perch out all the traces of the older management andMatman styles. So I think it definitely makes sense with changing the teamprinciples, especially when you're changing owners, especially if the teamis doing really bad. I mean I understand if Williams were somewhereforth or fifth hundred peble and they changed owners, and at that point theyshouldn't change the team principle. But what I mean they have not includesat this point might as pet in terms of drivers. Russells got that that veryconsistent driving record of being at least a headof Letifera single race heart goes out for the guy. When he got thatopportunity to drive er Mercidita, just he would have just loved. He was thisclosed right. Oh Man, that overtake on boat, as is like, is, is Hamilton inthat car because that one of one of those over text was just so brilliant,so yeah that guy's got quite a good career ahead of him. I think I thinkall the names are justified where you know it's like him sitting and justwatching who's retiring at Mercery, so he can go and fill that place. Yeah allthose names get to me, though. I Jelly hope that he does get a opportunity atMoitie, because if Hamilton doesn't retire in the coming years, I'm prettysure the other teams who are you know wanting to get charge, especially afterhis performance back in Sacian, yeah, so yeah. I hope that gorged as well-and he does get an opportunity at most lies because he does deserve it. ForShort, he is proven that we now yeah, I mean and benefit of out to Latif thereto as a teammate coming in now he still he's still getting his feet wet withnew management, new team, new cars, I'm hoping he'll have an amazing seasonthis year, but two thousand and twenty four him was was he was there, he was there, he wasthere. He was the second driver, but yeah I mean overall over all twothousand and twenty has been quite filled with news. It's been an unusual,surprising fun, sometimes a bit monotones everything everything thatyou can hope fron for that season. Let's do this. I want to know: What's what's your rating on t, Othousand and twenty out of ten in the maximum? Like, then, being you had somuch fun that you wouldn't have hoped for anything else? Okay, I think I'll go with the ratingof eight for me, especially considering how terrible of an our to an Iton wasthe difficulties that people have faced all the crappies of staying at home andeverything even has been one of the you know things to look forward to prettymuch for any fond fan through this yeare and the type of races that Avonhas delivered...

...was surly awesome. Some of the recesobviously were boarding, but then, if you take a look at the past fiveseasons, that's pretty much majority of the races in those seasons and if youdo a relative comparison of two thousand and twenty as compared to thepast five seasons, I definitely think highly of twenty veny and I would giveit a reading of it open yeah. I agree. I agree, I mean I think I'm going to gowith a seven, though, where two of my points go away with that more dominance,it gets to me once being because of the year that itwas, but then all event country to how the years been right.It's just been amazing. It was like the undulating track that they had and it'sbeen a roller quest of emotions. Seeing so many folks on Podia, dramatic sidecrashes bouncing back from them. Yeah it's been an exciting year. I hopeto see more fight at the top going ahead. So yeah there's some hopes out of twothousand and twenty one yep, I'm pretty excited for Twen twenty one. With thatwe're going to end this episode, folks will come back in the next episodetalking about two twenty twenty one, the new libraries that are out how the teams think they're going to dowhat what's the news and expectations from two thousand and twenty one andwe'll see all in the next episode. Good bye, T.

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