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Livery Bites Pt.3
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We return with another bite where we cover the liveries for remaining teams. We continue our discussion of liveries and aero packages revealed by teams so far.
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But you're absolutely right. You're absolutely really just looks like a chewing spack on blue ink. Yep. Well, okay, bwt should change there. I don't know whatever that's called. Their punch line to be w t ruins everything. Love, folks, this is going to be the last bite for livery part. Three or three. Continuing into the discussion, we are your host. I am a gosh and I'm silent, and let's get into it, Sarah, and pick a pick a team out of the hat again. Come on, I think let's start with my favorite liberty so far. I guess that's Ferrari. So Nice. There we are. I. I mean we expected a red card and they gave us a red card. So being consistent since nineteen fifty. Sure, exactly. Yeah, what are your thoughts? So like, Ferrari, I like, I like it. I like if they've gone to this this darker tone of red is what it is, and I think they teased us with this black and red sort of combination at some point last year, like I forget now. But, but, but, but, incorporating that into a fulltime libry going into two thousand and twenty two. I really like how that black accentuates this now darker red and the yellow branching horse. So, all in all, yeah, you're right, it's up there. And contention. Oh by the way, speaking of contention, I don't want to leave it to to later, but, folks, we're going to be running a a audience poole livery contest on our socials. The fixtures are going to be up soon after the episode release and you'll be the one voting and will crown a library winner. So stay tewned and check out our socials and make sure you follow us on at the right if one fan fiction everywhere, coming back. Yeah, I'm saying so. All in all, I love I love the branching horse, red, black and yellow combination. Yeah, no, I'm what I'm loving about this car is it's so clean in the sense that they are also kind of adopted a similar black band per se, you know, at the bottom of the body where they have like kept most of the sponsors. I think basically those are probably like the ones who paid less. Fair. Yeah, and then you have those with that on the body. So but but yeah, it overall, it looks very sleek and man like. What I really love about it is the side...
...pot. It's yeah, it looks like a dragon. Man, that these scales, those girls, they really look like a target skills and it's an interesting take on the side water to the right, like I don't think we've seen it in the in the previous five that we've discussed in part two or three and obviously the ones that are going to come up in this episode. But it's a different take on the side pot where it should have dips in to create probably this air flow which which comes back in and then flows into those those winds and the slits that they've created. Yeah, and also the way they have like the way they have created the body as well, if you see the grills, the way it bends along with the side pots into that valley and then comes back up. Man, it looks some sea shirt. I don't know. Yeah, that's true. What what catches my attention, though, is the shell logo. I feel like branching horse itself is sort of shorter right and like smaller right in front of their air and take nozzle and and then the shell logo, if you see from liquor side view, is bigger than the prancing horse themselves. It's an interesting one. Man. The shell logo is earning the money. The horse is probably not as much. Yeah, alley that, but all in all, like it feels like more of a toothpick shaped car to me. Think it's either it's the same nose or it's got a longer nose. But there's something different than they've done with their nose too, because it feels like it's more pointy or more longer. or it's an attribute of having like a wider side body with the with the more flatter air intake nozzle, which makes nose look a bit more longer. But there's something different in justed no, I think you're right. It probably is thinner and it probably kind of makes sense so the air and takes as well right on the sideboards are not thinner as compared to other caulor right. Of course they're wider is west, but I think for that they also have to keep the nose a little thinner to allow the air to, you know, go in and not be obstructed possibly, and also the pointed nose kind of helps split the air as well. And also, if you notice right the nose comes right up till the last plate on the wing, which I don't think happens on the other cars, like most other cause, if you notice, first of all, they have like a more rounded nose right and yeah, this is quite quite interesting. This is a quick it feels like. Yeah. Also, I don't know what the regulations are on I don't know what you called it, Bill, like let's call that side fins on the front wing, right, I think, where they've got the sand tender logo and the AI WS symbol. They are I do they feel...
...like more heighted? You like? Maybe if the standard height is a five inches, this feels like it's a seven inch lock on the side. I would guess that that section probably has some regulation. But yeah, I don't know enough. But yeah, I do agree. It does look a lot larger, but I think that's probably because most other, most other cause of you notice, actually even the mark has a large logo. I don't know, but yeah, I do agree. It does seem a little larger. And maybe then it's just the way they've branded stuff and like pretty yeah, yeah, oh, but that reminds me. Do you got a you gotta educate our folks on how they've done this. This nose bit different that you were telling me before we start. yeahding like a two part Oh yes, that's actually quite interesting. So I read this article by Georgeo Puola. I don't know if you have heard of he's a pretty yeah, he's a pop in, a pretty popular technical analyst for the fun so and he has those awesome drawings of his right that he publishes, which is just too good. Anyways, I diverge. But yeah, he had written article about this, basically outlining how Frari has bought in this modeler, you know, modelar nos concept which basically, if you notice right, any time a car comes in with a broken nose into the pit top, the mechanics, you know, remove the entire nose right up till, you know, up to like half of the nose, you could say. But for Ferrari they have like split it into two parts now so that they don't first of all, don't have to change the whole nose. Obviously it helps a little in the pit stops, for sure, I'm sure, since they're caring less of weight, but that's not the main feature. The mean feature is that, since they have form, like, since they've separated both of those two parts out, they have molgamated the the part that actually goes on to the nose. So that they don't have to do a crash test of the of new concepts of their wings every time they want to change it. So this way they save some costs as well as that basically enables to have, you know, a new wing for different tracks without having to do a lot of testing on that. Yeah, interesting, but you awesome. I'd be interested to see some stats on, you know, how they differ from other teams, if that ever becomes public. Is it's it's a curiosity driven thing, because I don't think any other teams doing this modular design on that on their front. No. So I definitely want to see if this ends up being as advantage as we think and everyone's been speculating it's going to be. Sir, I think it might give them some edge. Like you know, obviously similar are to like...
...what mercedies got with their DASS. Yeah, right, like nobody else had anything like that. So I'm pretty sure that's going to give them so much, but let's see how much. Speaking of Mercedies, I'm gonna under take mercedies next. They're back to their their silver Arrow design. First things first, and I'm glad there's no thousand amg written on the back of the body. So that's a AMG womit. Yeah, no MG vomit this time around, so that's good. Yeah, though, I like. Honestly, I'm I'm kind of liking the livery it is good. It is. Yeah, right, I thought I wouldn't, but somehow they won. You were that wing man. That wing, the rare wing, just picks it away from me. There's a there's a side shot of the of the car taken from like a lower angle, and that just makes the car looks so sleek. It's long, it's elongated, you have that nice curve which are making it look like a racing car and it's just so, so beautiful. Yep, YEP, Yep. And especially the way the way the patron is blue like flows along with the black through the body. Looks Really Nice. Even the wings, like the red in yours, in the inner plate of the wing right, looks really nice. Well then, not a fan of the red engine and air and take. That still looks weird, but it still seems, you know, for what it reminds me of every time, like a joker, having like the red noise. Oh yeah, that's fair enough, fair enough. Although I do like the red streak that they've done. I don't know what they're calling it, but like the the flaps that come over the front tyres. Now there's a Oh yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, that looks really nice. DRIM around it. That looks good. Oh No, I wanna ask you about the CRIMPS. To me about the crowds, a crime. Yeah, yeah, man, that that's something very interesting and I think mercedies had tested this back last year as well and in fact a lot of people, in fact a lot of analysts, had kind of pointed this out when they first bought this in last year and everybody was kind of speculating what advantage do they have with that, because it wasn't very evident in last year's cars. But it seems like they were all along testing it kind of this year and I guess they believe in it. So, I mean, you see it so prominently right out there fluor the entire it looks simply awesome. I guess, like the way they have constructed it. How the I don't know what that's called again, the intake flap side and take flaps or something front at like yeah, yeah, and the bend into and you can actually, if you see a side view, rate you can actually...
...see the tunnels going down and then the CRIMP coming up, which is like further on the side. So, Santos, yeah, pushing those tunnels together. I guess that's basically to create that low pressure area in at the bottom which like will gain them the extra downfalls. Right. I guess folks, folks on the audience, like if you know exactly or have some speculations on why those crimps are and what errow advantage they add right into us. Let us know, for from you Harow Geeks out there. What, what value could Mercedes gain from these, the scrims on the side skirts? But the design itself, Sarah, is, is sort of interesting because they don't have these these vents or slits or whatever on their main body. That belly seems more tighter. It's it's like a racing toy care which sort of like place messes up actually with my you know, Noub errow sense. There is no outlet inlet sort of stuff that other cars have been doing. Yea, yeah, right. It's very confusing to me as well, like everybody else, like seem to have, you know, some form of output like, for example, you know, we talked about out Alfertari last week that they don't have a grill, you know, but they do have like a wider where of the cars of that kind of still allows, you know, the air to escape, but I guess that probably could also be some form of erromangic that they're playing, basically right, but it's an interesting design nonetheless. On F one's own website, they they talk about the same where they've gotten like narrow pods. Why do side channels? Blah, Blah Blah. Is there's a good article, but what I want to talk with you next are and is you know, they've got this two images where it's a side side image of comparing everything in lengthwise with Ferrari, and it's interesting how you know, the the the actual main body between the two tires is a tad bit longer for Mercedes as compared to the Ferrari. It's sitting a bit more down as compared to the Ferrari. Oh yeah, but the front doing as we've already discussed, for the Ferraris more point here. So it's like punching into the probey, punching into the air prolley a bit more faster. Yeah, it's it's a most interesting date the sum much a lot of things that we see. You know, you can actually play like that. Twenty one differences, Gay, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I like the air and take...
...on the site pots as well. I think we talked about this earlier. Like the most of Diss Arran takes. It's a lot more behind, almost towards the end of the site pot actually, like the copper other yeah, and Ferrari's has right right where the halo starts. So yeah, that's pretty interesting as well. Right. And then even like when you see those this front air and take nozzles, the tools, like it's so much flat and wider, like like the main body on the Ferrari, so much wider versus like Hah, yeah, abuse is quite narrow. So yeah, going going into a similar discussion. Let's let's pick its B team. I mean it's not a Bename, but I'lpine sort of is bebt is is a bet right. They've also gotten something similar with a tighter with a tighter man. You really pull that UF. I did, because you know what I while I was saying that, my brain was processing B wt two thousand and nineteen and like them, copying Mercedes, and they're being called like mercedies. There, I I can understand. You. See what I did. Yeah, but I'll be in man. Yeah, I've been. Okay, first of all, what the Fuck is wrong with you people? Why did you guys create a boomer car? Okay, if anyone doesn't know, boomer is basically a brand of bubble gum that used to get back in India long time ago. I don't is it does does it like SIS? But you're absolutely right. Why? Yeah, ready, just looks like a chewing spack on blue ink. Yep, okay, bwt should change there. I don't know whatever that's called. THEIR PUNCH LINE TO BE W T ruins. Everything the BBT here. Right. Bwt needs to rebrand as a company, not as an F pointem but as a company in Canada. Like they just need to be like we need to sit, sit this one in it, like let's let's plan this. Yeah. Also, it's a lot weird. I think they there's a lot of confusion actually going on about the livery so. First of all, they showed renders of the first liberty, which is like seventy percent blue, thirty percent or other sixty percent blue, forty percent pink, and then there was this event going on in doors that they had and then outside they had a show car, which was the other one, which is basically mostly pink and a little blue, and they basically said that the first two reouses...
...will be with this livery and the rest with the other. Right. And on top of all that, okay, story doesn't end there. They had another media day with Alonso recently where they had the second livery, and the car that they have is completely different from the real car and the render. So they basically have three cars or I don't know what's going on. Yeah, probably there are two camps within within their teeth, just to be satisfying everyone in politically correctly, like yeah, we'll run both of them. You we called the special livery, you be called the regular livery. You know, everyone gets track time. Everyone's satisfied, you know, but makes a lot of sense. But in all seriousness, I feel like them investing so much time in doing all of this, I I don't know, I'm I don't see how they perform on track. is been all over the place in the past two year. Yeah, like them having copied mercedies to the tea two years back. Wait, bwd was part of it. I'll beeen. Wasn't. I don't care. See when I when I see this car right now, Sarah, all I see is beat up ty pasted everywhere. There's to beat. The duty is on the front doing there's two, one the belly, there's one on their air wing. From right stream. I wouldn't see this car and be like, Oh, and Alpine's going down the track. I'd be like, there is four bwts on the track. Yeah. Well, actually, if you look at the second levery, I'm completely convinced it's racing point existant. Yeah, where is Alpinoh, there's Alonzo in this. He's gonna Crib about. There are no engine or an. I was rebranded to LP. That's how many clicks it's going to take me to get to LPI. Oh Man, Yep, Yep, agree say. I keep looking at the other image, but whenever, as soon as I look at the you know, mostly pink car, it completely reminds me of foods and day. So there's things, just so much happening with this car that I'm just torn apart. At this point. Like three years come by Betabilities back in their game. I don't know how they're going to fare this. This year. But but about the library, right, like they post this new interesting engineering where they want like a dual grill against nothing that another team's done. So I want to see like how they're air intake and then how their arrows play into this this interesting duel grill slots that they have. Yeah, and also along with those grills, another interesting part, I think, is that the sideboard basically towards the back like slopes down as compared to everybody else...
...wherever most other side parts are like integrating into the back of the car, right, but this is like still, you know, very different. Right, right. The side view of the car makes it look very interesting because then you have like this uniform curve going from all the way on the on your front wings to the point it dims o to the end. You're right right now that you say it it, I noticed that it you see, that very surfis from your to that are. Yeah, it's unnoticeable at times because that bewt is blaring it, but yeah, but yeah, the curve goes very distinctly. And then again, this being I keep coming back to this being like a mercedies be team, but even these guys sports some skirting and crimping at the end right. Yeah, yeah, I think. I think along with Beata beauty comes some mosadies technology. I guess that is part of the ideal. But yeah, it seems something similar that they're doing to not not at the front of the wing as much as that they are doing at the rear of the wing right, like they have some I don't know whether this slits or like the crimping. It either way is there's some features going on towards the rare float. Just quite interesting. Yeah, and just to quote before we move onto the last one. They just to quote the FN article. The engine cover at this point is obviously as the all new power unit with the new regulations coming in, which is what they are calling like a split turbo architecture. This was something that mercities introduced first in the first year of hybrid on the Hybrid Formula Era. So well the yeah, anyways, okay, before we move on, I have to say something. You know how they have massacred my boy from last year's best livery to arguably the worst livery now. The downfall has been premendous. Man, I agree at this is. This is for me in contention with like Alpha towery monochrome. Yeah, yeah, I agree. You know what, I'm not as bad with Alpha dowery anymore, because at least that car doesn't hurt my eyes. On a surprising note, like I saw Yahoo as a sponsor on these guys. With the Hell is Yahoo have bringing in all this money from? anyways, that's off topic of Fone at this point. But under the last one, Williams to these guys are up there. Honestly, I mean in the first look the card is not very spectacular. Okay, it seems like a nomlivery but once you like look at it and you know it's really appreciate...
...its beauty, it like comes to you how awesome the scars, because yes, it's blue, mostly just yeah, but but the I think you had mentioned this earlier as well, especially the top of you write the the we yeah stripes that they have at that front. Yeah, that's ye combined with the rare red backward point and stripes too. Yeah, yeah, Oh, another thing I just noticed. If you see the way they have written William Racing, where Williams is white and racing is blue. That that itself Looks Pretty Nice. On the wing, I don't know. Oh, they're rare yeah, yeah, right, yeah, right. I like how they've used no, I like how they've used the whole three blue tones and nature of like a mosaic out of it on the bed. Yeah, yeah, it's overly blue, but it's still not overly blue enough sort of thing. So I like how they supported and played with the red as well, not going for like the joker smile red word. Yeah, they just like squirted like a lipstick red, and they're also I think last year the car that they had, like they had a similar as design towards the end, using two different other shades of blue, but that wasn't as good. Right, like this, this, what they've come up with, is just spectacular. Last year so is at least I'd said. But I mean they've been getting better, not just with their performance, even with their library, because, yeah, prior to that I didn't like the Whitish Williams that was there and then they came with a they can agree that blue last year, which is better than this year's better and Yep, Yep, I think Williams. Overall, I have high expectations from them, especially with alborn coming in, like I'm kind of cheering for him because I like him. As a person. So I'd really hope Willim Yeah, you know, tell us with their car. Yeah, yeah, true, true, true. On the car, though, there's there's another thing that that sort of mimics. They're a team, so to say, mercies, which is again like a tighter body that they have, right, like their side view towards the rare is just so aggressively narrow. Yeah, the, the, the, again, no, girls, again, again, yes, yes, no, great, again. Yes. It's the other thing I'm noticing now probably is how, if you see the CEF ones article right where they've done this analysis on the car, the first image where they show the side body, it's interesting how the the...
...exhaust on the back sort of dips with the body and it's sort of pointing downwards to flat. That's interesting. And what they're calling is an underbody priority. So it's like a yeah, a higher friend doing so as to sort of taken more are under the nose or yeah, it's going to be interesting how these guys, these guys, I mean like Williams, Mercedes, all these wind side went player teams, how perform in the in the wind tunnel. Yeah, and considering the fact that these teams like the team's at the rear, like at the back of the constructor stable. They received more time for the wind tunnel testing, so I'm pretty sure they have used it up to, you know, their advantage. And let's see. I mean just looking at the car, it doesn't seem like they have anything special, but that just might do the trick, you know. Yeah, so it seems like they have done a lot of work under the body. Probably. Yeah, yeah, let's see. I think that sums up library part three. Would probably just going to take let Alfa Romeo get a free pass, because these guys are just too late. I would probably not going to wait for them. Yeah, they are, you know, embracing kimmy's attitude and they're like, you know, you not going to show up for the media event. Is because the track testing starts tomorrow as yes, kind of recording. So they are going to show up on the track, I assue. But they don't want to launch their car, which is, yeah, very, very weird. So I guess they'll come up with their last year's livery I guess which would like, and then they'll release a later but I don't understand why though. But anyways, maybe we need some more time for their homework. True, Alfa, Romeo, yeah, boat as is there. We've got one user out. Yeah, let's let's see. Let's get any wrapping cards before I we we sort of close this down. I think a couple of interesting things, like I came across the last few days. One of them was like they're gonna start having these bloodyople like show and tell sessions. We're basically teams that introduce new aero bits or anything. Basically have to kind of do a shoe untel so that audience kind of understands what upgrades they're going to bring in, which seems pretty interesting. I too am not sure where or when will they are it. I don't think like they'll show each and every part, but I guess they like Pickin choose from that what seemed interesting and kind of build. Should to cut your very nice idea. It took...
...at your off there, like if I understood what you're saying, you're resency essentially saying that instead of exports speculating on what these ero changes are, it's like their teams come out of their garages and then show and explain this is what we've done and you know, this is what it means. Yep, oh, that's exactly, actually a good that's actually good because we get to learn from them rather than have experts. Great, exactly, I know. That's what I'm quite impressed that they came up to this idea. I mean, I would love watching that, like that's pretty awesome. Teams themselves telling what up cads they are bringing in seems pretty awesome. So, yeah, that that seems at interesting. Another interesting bit which I saw was, I think q three rules have changed a bit, where basically then not going to force you to use your q two tires anymore. So basically you'll have a free touch chance. That's going to really, yeah, change things up. So you could just go first a new set of tires and power through. I don't know how I feel about this one yet, because it's new. Yeah, mission to me because, yeah, the thought in my head right now is sure, sorry, I'm I'm just talking to myself in my head, but the thought in my head was like probably everyone gets new tires, so it takes off the edge of clothes racing. But then I'm also thinking like sure, everyone has the free will choice of doing the same as the a team or or being the B team. So then that also levels things up. So, yeah, I think we'll have to see how this one plays out. Yeah, I do, am not entirely sure, because I think like I kind of understand where they're coming from, like, if they really want to make this a true competition, didn't have to have a level playing field per se, even from like other teams respect today, like think about if Williams gets into the top ten, somehow they still suffer with the tire rule and not eble to, you know, make best out of their fortunity. So from that perspective, it does make sense to me that, you know, it's scrapping this rule is kind of good for other teams, but at the same time I feel that gap would possibly still increase. Yeah, because mercedies a Lotso going to come back with the new tires exactly? So yeah, I don't know. Let's see how it plays out. I'm excited for the testing that starts tomorrow. If yeah, I yeah, man, I hope there's just too much close racing this seasons, too much overtakes and everything more. So I feel like I hope the aero plays a big role into how cars speed up and, you know, cut through the the...
...field. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, bites was a good experiment we've done. Hopefully you guys have liked it. Folks, yeah, let us know. Let us know. Yeah, please, let us know, please, let us know. You may still see a bite coming in, but that would be season two. This is season whatever one, point five or whatever we've called it doesn't matter. Next episode of season it's yeah, it's a good season coming up. Next episode we officially be going into season two. You know, it's going to be a surprise. You have no clue what's it's waiting for you as a season two banger. We've gone crazy recording that one, for sure. Yeah, it's a guest episode. Let me at least give you that. Guess WHO's the guest? I guess. All in all, see you in season two. These are your host signing of but bye.
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